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ISA (Incest Survivors Anonymous), has joined a number of other psychologists in promoting a new, expanded definition of the word incest:**From the viewpoint of the survivor encompassing the emotional,...

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Without comment on the merits of the definition, I'd point out that it is the nature of all organizations and bureauracracies to try to (ooops.. 'try and') expand their turf. A bigger constituency...

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I have four problems with the definition and the concept that is being defined. First, it expands the meaning of the word beyond all usefulness. The reason why a new word wasn't invented for...

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It's the final part of the definition that pushes it beyond the pale for me, "teenager and older." How much older than teenager are you before you become an adult? By the definition, Bill Clinton, a...

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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"And "sodomy" has not broadened in definition to include all sorts of sexual acts,...

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Entirely off-topic, PKapleau, I can't help wondering whether you sprinkle your typed text with CRLFs entirely at random, or whether there's an obscure method in there somewhere.

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Sodomy starts out allegedly in Sodom as a single actNot sure what "single act" you have in mind, but it's not at all clear what the "sin of Sodom" was supposed to be, either to the Biblical author(s)...

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I've always wondered what they got up to in Gomorrah.I suspect they had the habit of putting dead matches back in the box. Now that's an abomination one could wax wroth about.

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Not sure what "single act" you have in mind, but it's not at all clear what the "sin of Sodom" was supposed to be, either to the Biblical author(s) or in medieval times (take a look at a book called...

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You've switched sides. Initially you claimed that the definition had widened. From your original post:"It seems from previous discussions here, that these terms tend to grow and encompass more than...

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Jim Wilton wrote: "Rape is the only crime that I am aware of where the state of mind (i.e. consent or not) of the victim determines guilt."Consent is a defense to several crimes, including theft...

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Hilarious, kurwamac! Being raised extremely fundamental, my siblings and I used to speculate that the Sodomites were, well, sodomites (homosexuals), and the Gomorrahites were lesbians, a conjecture...

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You've switched sides. Initially you claimed that the definition had narrowed. From your original post:"It seems from previous discussions here, that these terms tend to grow and encompass more than...

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Oh, I suppose so, Steve. There was also that horrible case in Germany last year where a murder victim who developed a bizarre sado-masochistic on-line relationship with his murderer apparently...

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I think the Biblical author had a pretty clear idea of what he was talking about. It is spelt out very clearly in Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, where are the men which came...

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There is no "Biblical definition of sodomy." Sodomy is a modern word based on the story the Bible tells about what happened in Sodom, which is a fairly complicated one. You're focusing on the sex part...

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"There is no 'Biblical definition of sodomy' "Thank you for the reminder that sodomy is a modern word (next time, try a bit harder not to be condescending). Unless I am gravely mistaken, the word...

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The bit in the original quote that seems most of a stretch to me is:Unfortunately, there are many ways a survivor can be victimized between conception and birth.In this era, The Age of the Victim,...

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Thank you for the reminder that sodomy is a modern word (next time, try a bit harder not to be condescending).My friend, if you don't want to be condescended to, try a bit harder not to write in a way...

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"This is very problematic. Rape is the only crime that I am aware of where the state of mind (i.e. consent or not) of the victim determines guilt."Not so sure of that. If someone takes something of...

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Quote:Unfortunately, there are many ways a survivor can be victimized between conception and birth.In this era, The Age of the Victim, surely this is the ultimate head start.I agree - that is, I agree...

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